Fed & Fit Podcast: Benefits of Floating with iSofloat

Welcome back to another episode of the Fed and Fit podcast. Today is a very special episode because we are going to get a little geeky, a little sciencey. I know that there are some listeners here who have told me that they love those kinds of episodes and we’re going to do it today in the vein of the important piece of all health and wellness lifestyle and healthy pursuits, a huge part of that is rest and recovery and that’s what we’re going to focus on today, specifically one method. To join us on today’s call is Sloane Wendell. She’s an expert and the owner actually of the first float therapy spa in San Antonio, Texas which is actually where I’m from but things that we’re going to talk about today definitely apply in a worldly perspective.

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Cassy:
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Welcome back to another episode of the Fed and Fit podcast. Today is a very special episode because we are going to get a little geeky, a little sciencey. I know that there are some listeners here who have told me that they love those kinds of episodes and we’re going to do it today in the vein of the important piece of all health and wellness lifestyle and healthy pursuits, a huge part of that is rest and recovery and that’s what we’re going to focus on today, specifically one method. To join us on today’s call is Sloane Wendell. She’s an expert and the owner actually of the first float therapy spa in San Antonio, Texas which is actually where I’m from but things that we’re going to talk about today definitely apply in a worldly perspective.
The name of her float therapy spa is called iSofloat. iSofloat is a specialized float therapy center that focuses on restrictive environmental stimuli therapy, REST, also known as floating. Maybe some of you have heard of this before. Floating is a tool for pain relief, wellness, and relaxation and it comes with a lot of different benefits. Float therapy allows our body to better equip themselves to deal with the stress and tension of living in today’s fast-paced world and to tell us all about the science, all about they whys, and some of her personal experience is my friend Sloane. Thank you so much for joining us today, Sloane.

Sloane:
Thank you, Cassy. It’s wonderful to be here. Thank you so much.

Cassy:
Of course. This is going to be great. I’m so excited. Sloane was gracious enough, she invited me to come out and try a float and I actually tried it last night so this is less than 24 hours later so I can give some personal experience but I was really blown away. What got you first turned onto this whole idea of floating because you were the first one to tell me about it several years ago when you were talking about wanting to start this business here but what got you turned onto it? What were some of your reasons why and then what ultimately made you want to invest in it as a business owner?

Sloane:
Sure. I would say about three or four years ago I bulged some discs in my back. I was actually doing some back squats. I remember the day very well. I was in my home gym doing it by myself and I was afraid I was going to not be able to stand up. I found out that I had bulged some discs. I was in an immense amount of pain, I didn’t know for a while that I’d actually bulged them, but trying to deal with it. Finally went to the doctor, had an MRI. Lo and behold, I had bulged some discs and so I couldn’t do any type of competitions. I could barely walk. I hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt. I was listening to Jim Laird one day and he was talking about how he went to Lexington, Kentucky and he would go to a float therapy center where he would go float. I thought this was extremely interesting.
He’d been in a bad car wreck and it was one of the only ways he got relief for his back pain and so I was like, “Okay. If Jim Laird’s doing it,” I thought a lot of him. He trains a lot of women in weightlifting. I thought, “Okay. If Jim’s doing it, this is something I need to do.” What do you do when you’re trying to find something? You go Google it. I started Googling floating, float therapy, sensory deprivation, isolation therapy, things of that nature, and I couldn’t find anything in San Antonio. Did a lot of research, found out about it. It was wonderful. Lots of positive things. I had to take it, put it away for a while because I couldn’t find a place. The closest one, there was one in Houston and it was in somebody’s basement and that kind of frightened me to be perfectly honest. I was like, “I’m not going to go float naked in somebody’s basement that I don’t know.”
About six months later, I Googled it again and there was a place that had opened in Austin. My husband Jim, he’s got some degenerative issues in his back as well so he has some spinal issues, if you will. We drove to Austin and had our first float and it was wonderful. It was magical. It was great. We were both pain free and so it kind of became a regular habit for us. We would drive to Austin and drive back. Even though it’s 90 miles from Austin to San Antonio, it can feel like the drive from San Antonio to Dallas with traffic and everything else that’s going on, construction. One day we were driving home and we were having a really hard time staying awake. I just looked over at him and I said, “You know Jim, this is something we need to bring to San Antonio,” and the seed was planted and it took us a couple years, a lot of hard work, a lot of pounding the ground to try to find financing, people to support it, but here we are and we’re finally open and I could not be happier. It’s a manifestation of a dream, that’s for sure.

Cassy:
It’s just incredible. I am so incredibly proud of you. The facilities are beautiful. It’s relaxing as soon as you walk in the door but just having heard you talk about this for years and seeing it come to fruition is just awesome and the good it’s going to do for people. For people who are not from Texas, the drive from San Antonio to Austin feels … There are some states in the country where I feel like you could cross a few state lines [inaudible 00:07:08] amount of drive but us Texans, we drive everywhere and then to Dallas is a good, what? Five and a half hour drive.

Sloane:
Easily. Easily on a good day.

Cassy:
Easily. You would need some isolation floating after a drive like that but that’s really interesting. Can you tell listeners here a little bit more about … I guess we can talk first about the logistics of floating, how many pounds of Epsom salts are dissolved in the water, you have a covered tank. Just kind of walk people through that part of it and then I’d love to jump into the benefits on a molecular level according to the research you’ve done.

Sloane:
Sure. Yeah, we’ll talk about the equipment we use and how to get salty, if you will. There’s a couple different types of equipment used for floating. There’s float pods, they have some more that are called Samadhi tanks. We went with float rooms. The equipment we have here at iSofloat is about the size of a queen sized mattress so it’s six by eight feet, seven feet tall. The average person unless you’re a Spurs player can stand up in it and it has plenty of room within it. Pods tend to be a lot smaller. I personally am claustrophobic and so I don’t have any problems in the float rooms and that’s one reason, they’re a tad more expensive to say the least, but we went the extra mile and went with float rooms.

Cassy:
They’re massive. I can definitely attest to that. It was huge. When I walked in, I expected a bathtub. I was like, “Oh, my gosh. It’s the size of my first apartment.”

Sloane:
That’s probably a true statement. It is probably bigger than some people’s apartments in New York City. Within that float room, we have about 10 inches of water. It’s about 200 gallons and within that we have 11,000 pounds of Epsom salt dissolved in it.

Cassy:
That’s incredible.

Sloane:
Yes. When we were filling the tanks up, it was literally probably a four foot tall pile of Epsom salt and it’s all dissolved within the 200 gallons of water that’s in there, then the water is heated to 93.5 degrees Fahrenheit which is ambient temperature of your skin for the average person. We all run a little bit different but for the most part, it’s all 93.5 and what that does is [inaudible 00:09:36] temperature your body can’t sense the water since it’s ambient temperature. Once you get into the tank, there is light music playing. You sit down, lay back, and you literally plop up like a cork. It’s a very cool experience. Once you lay down in there, the light and the music fade and you’re left in an environment that has no stimuli on your body so it’s dark, it’s soundproof, and you can’t feel the water.
That’s kind of how the tanks are set up. There’s obviously a shower in each room. You shower before you get in and shower when you get out but that’s kind of, I guess I would say, the non-science piece of what the float rooms are like.

Cassy:
You have the option to leave the lights on or off but overall, that pretty much sums it up. I didn’t really know what I was getting into. I did my research but I didn’t expect it to be so big and so roomy and I thought I would bump a wall but I didn’t. You do. You pop up like a cork and you just sit there.

Sloane:
Yes. Most people haven’t experienced anything like this since literally they were probably in their mother’s womb. Nobody remembers experiencing anything like that. You do have the ability to turn the light off or on if you would like while you’re in there. You still get great benefits even if you turn the light on because your body can’t sense the water, you feel like you’re in a zero gravity environment. When you turn the light off, you literally feel like you’re floating through space so you get to be an astronaut without ever leaving the planet.

Cassy:
It’s so true. I told Sloane after I got out last night that I turned the light off, and I’ll tell you guys more a little bit about my first experience in a minute, but I told her that I had tried to keep an eye on the outline of the door just because there was just the faintest glow coming from it and it looked like it was miles away. It really did and when the lights came back on, it was right there by my side. It was so interesting. You really do. It’s an out of body experience.

Sloane:
Yes. Yes it is. If we want to get geeky for a minute, we can kind of go into … I know your listeners have a tendency to like the science behind it so let’s go into a little bit about the science. Floating seems a little counter-intuitive for something literally so simple but in today’s world, we just can’t get to something so simple. We’ve got our cell phones, we’ve got our ear buds, we’re just constantly, constantly bombarded by all this stimuli. Scientists estimate that 90% of the brain’s normal workload is caused by the effects of the routine environment which we live in so gravity, temperature, touch, light, sounds, all those things. The float room screens out all that external stimuli, creating a pure state of sensory relaxation and under these unique conditions, our body has a chance to restore it’s natural powers of self-regulation while we just simply lie back, relax, some people fall asleep, and we get to rediscover the latent abilities of deeply relaxed mind.
You might not necessarily realize all that’s going on while you’re lying in there because our bodies are actually such complicated machines. The sudden lack of stimulation in these large areas of the nervous system trigger a spontaneous chain reaction through the body which is known as the parasympathetic response. Muscle tension and blood pressure, our heart rate, our oxygen consumption, they all drop dramatically when we float and the entire chemistry of our body changes while we float because these things are going on due to the parasympathetic response. The parasympathetic response is our body’s natural mechanism for healing and regeneration so that’s one great thing about floating is there’s no chemicals, there’s no drugs, nothing. It’s totally natural and the benefits are so, so, so amazing and powerful.
Floating is the fastest and easiest way and the most effective way of eliciting the response and enjoying a dramatic benefit to relaxation, pain-free, muscle rejuvenation, if you will. Floating just rests the body’s total and it restore our chemical metabolic balance and it strengthens our resistance to affect stress and injury and illness as well. Not only are you fixing what you have but you’re also giving yourself a dose of prevention, if you will. First time floaters generally say it’s the most enjoyable experience of their lives and to be perfectly honest, I’ve been floating for a number of years and it really is and it’s because the parasympathetic response really allows us to relax like we’ve never, ever been able to relax before and as part of that, the parasympathetic response, it reduces the stimulation on our nervous system which has a direct effect on our hypothalamus and our hypothalamus is the brain’s chemical control center so our thoughts of emotion come from the hypothalamus.
When we have the nervous system’s relaxed, the hypothalamus is relaxed, it translate into a measurable change in our body chemistry. We produce more endorphins, there’s the removal of undesirable body chemistries that are going on necessarily, and it stimulates feelings of confidence, happiness, and well being which help us pursue goals in our life. We get to achieve that level of relaxation and we get to go into a deeper sleep and there’s some studies that show that there’s a sharp drop in the level of electrical activity of the brain. They’ve done some studies where we’ve got some floaters going into tanks and they’re hooked up to EKGs. The usual EKG range for a human is 20 to 25 hertz and when we float, it goes down to four to eight hertz which is amazing so we have a real slow reduction in our rhythmic brain pattern and we move into the theta state, if you will.
In the theta state, it’s also called the dream state, and in the theta state, most people, it’s almost impossible to fall asleep when you start to go into that theta state. If you think about the theta state is when you take a mid-afternoon nap and I do this sometimes and you start to fall asleep and you think you’re awake but you think you’re kind of asleep and you’re in that tween world, if you will. That’s your theta state and you have some of the wildest things that happen in that. I feel like sometimes when I take my Sunday afternoon nap and I’m in that state and I think somebody’s trying to talk to me and I have these great imaginary conversations with my husband and they don’t happen. Sometimes when you do fall asleep or you’re starting to wake up but you’re not quite ready to wake up yet, that’s also your theta state.
Floating allows you to get into that theta state and stay in it. That theta state gives us a zone of inspiration thought process and it gives us hyper creativity when we’re in there. Also [crosstalk 00:17:32] one of the things of being in that state-

Cassy:
That’s kind of the state. [crosstalk 00:17:34] I’m just thinking. I’m sorry to interrupt. I’m thinking that’s why some people keep notepads next to their bed because they pop up and they’re like, “Oh. I got to write that down.”

Sloane:
Yes. Exactly. When you’re in this theta state and with the combination of the brain’s EKG levels coming down, our body is free from all external distractions during floating and we get to absorb a lot of information. Some people use it for meditation. You can do some guided meditation while you’re in there but it’s also that theta state just increases our ability for our bodies to heal when we’re in that zone as well. That’s kind of the geeky version. I would say the way I explain it to most of our clients is you basically have zero stimuli when you’re in that float tank on your central nervous system and so your body goes, “Wow. This feels amazing,” because you’re not dealing with light and sound and how to adjust for it and what to see and depth perception. Your body goes, “Oh, wow. I can relax,” and your body and your nervous system literally just take a deep breath while you’re in there.
In taking that deep breath, one of the things it’s allowed to do is it says, “Oh. You know what? I’ve got back pain. I need to send some endorphins to the back to help heal the back,” or a pulled muscle in your shoulder or something like that. Your body when it’s not dealing with all these extrasensory things that are going on says, “Oh, wow. I actually have problem. I need to go heal it,” and it actually sends more powerful … What’s the word I’m looking for? It sends more power [crosstalk 00:19:22] and concentrates on the-

Cassy:
Focused healing. [crosstalk 00:19:23]

Sloane:
Yeah. It concentrates on those areas. When you have back pain or arthritis, that’s what it does. It really hones in on those areas or if you have an injury from a fall or you tore a muscle, it really concentrates on healing those, healing the micro-tears in your muscles. That’s kind of the, I would say, high level, easier way to maybe think about it and the way for those of us that aren’t geeky and like all the science, it may be a different way to look at it.

Cassy:
Yeah. That’s great. I think that’s wonderful and I really want people to know that it really is sort of a spa experience just like a lot of therapeutic practices. You go and you get a therapeutic massage, for example, to help recover from an injury or maybe you’re like me and your shoulders are constantly in your ears the way you carry your stress. It’s relaxing and at the same time therapeutic so it really does have that kind of strikes a very, very nice balance. I’d like to walk some folks through some of just the overall user experience. I can kind of give it from my perspective and Sloane, feel free to jump in and fill in the gaps if I miss anything, but you show up and would you say you tell folks to budget about an hour and a half to be there total?

Sloane:
Yes. We can do floats in any length of amount of time but generally the most common are 60 to 90 minutes so if you’re at a 60 minute float, yes. I would say budget about an hour and a half for your time.

Cassy:
Budget about an hour and a half and I recommend, now that I’m a pro, I’ve got one under my belt, I have a couple tips. I showed up after a full day of we filmed a couple cooking segments for TV so I have this gigantic hair and all this makeup. If you can make things easier on yourself, just try to show up with little of that on but she walks you into your own dressing room and you leave everything in a locker, of course your phone as well, so the idea is part of that still isolation concept. Not isolation in the lonely sense but isolation in the we’re going to eliminate those external stimuli like Sloane’s been saying this whole time. Everything stays in the locker. You put on this yummy robe and then they lead you into the most amazing massage chair I’ve ever sat in in my life and you sit in there for 10 minutes. I think it’s 10 minutes. It could have gone on forever.

Sloane:
10 to 15 minutes. It just depends. We try to keep it in that 10 to 15 minute range.

Cassy:
I could have sat there for life.

Sloane:
I’m glad to hear you enjoy them.

Cassy:
Oh, my gosh. It was incredible. It was one of those chairs that squeezes your hands and your arms and your feet, all of it. It was very, very neat. They sit you in this chair, then they walk you into your own suite, for lack of a better word, and it’s got this beautiful stand up shower with the rainfall that comes down and these lovely lights, this lovely music, and like I said, this isolation tank that’s the size of my first apartment. You walk in and then like Sloane said, you shower because the idea is to wash off any of the chemicals or things that you might have on your body from the day. You just get a really clean set. I washed off my makeup. I don’t know that you have to necessarily do that but did that and then I washed all the goop out of my hair from TV and then you go, like she said, and you slip into this tank and she has a squirt bottle of fresh water there in case I guess you get any of the salt water in your eyes and a towel.
Put those on the inside and I slid into the tank and I was amazed. I sat down and immediately floated right back up and I laid my head back. I did put ear plugs in just in case. You just sit right on top of the water. It’s like those folks that go to the Dead Sea and you see these people floating right on top of the water. It’s definitely that same experience. You sit there and you float and then all of a sudden, the music fades and the lights fade and it becomes very dark and you’re in there for 60 minutes and this was my first experience in it and Sloane told me after I got out. She was like, “What did you think? Because some people on their first time kind of freak out a little bit for the first part of it,” and I don’t think I told you this last night but I was thinking while I was floating in that tank in the pitch black that I listen to too many crime podcasts.

Sloane:
Yep. That’ll do it, Cassy.

Cassy:
I listen to too many of those and I also just watched that Stranger Things show on Netflix. I was like, “This was all [inaudible 00:24:16].” Yeah. This was exactly with Eleven. All that was swimming in my head while my brain was trying to get to that relaxed state and eventually I did. Maybe it was halfway through but as soon as I did, time was moving very slowly until I really did relax and I realized that nobody was going to come in there. It’s not … Anyways, the way your mind works in the pitch black. It was lovely and I did fall asleep a couple times and I didn’t think I would. The only reason I knew I fell asleep was because I jerk and I splashed my-

Sloane:
Jerking woke you up.

Cassy:
It did and then my mind went right back to the crime podcasts but it really was an out of body experience. You really do feel like you’re floating through space and then all of a sudden, I thought 60 minutes would feel like it would crawl by but it was over before I knew it. The lights came back on and it was just very, very interesting. You prep people that when they stand up after being in the float tank, their legs may feel a little wobbly so to kind of take it easy but you go and you rinse off the heavy, heavy, concentrated salt water and from my hair and from your body and my skin. I’ve never felt it feel so soft and I also read online, in your FAQs people asked, “Don’t your fingers prune after being in essentially a bath for an hour,” and they didn’t and I’d love to hear your thoughts on why that but my skin felt super soft and you really do feel like you just woke up.
You know when you have those afternoon naps? I hardly ever take naps but sometimes necessity demands it and you wake up and you just feel like you’re walking on air. It was one of the most relaxing, incredible naps of your life and that’s exactly what you feel like when you walk out of this tank. As strung up as I was going into it, I really did walk out with that piece and then go back in, had a cup of tea, got dressed, and went out and congratulated my friend Sloane on this awesome business but it was incredible. That’s kind of the full user experience. I think that if you are going to go and you like to put lotions on your skin, I would bring a lotion in your purse, something like that to put on afterwards, but otherwise it was dreamy.
It was absolutely dreamy and I called my husband on the way home and he was in the car and he said, “Wow. You just sound so happy.” I was like, “Really?” I had no idea and then I was cracking jokes. I was like, “It’s probably because I defied death because of these crime podcasts,” but really it’s no joke. I would not kid, folks. It really does give you this crazy endorphin high, kind of somewhat similar to what you get after a workout but it’s relaxation-based. It’s not intensity-based so it was really, really interesting.

Sloane:
Yes. Kind of along those same lines with your experience, the bath products that we use in the shower are all lavender scented. I don’t know if you noticed that, Cassy, but it’s not overly lavender. It’s just very subtle. They’re all natural. They don’t have any petroleum products in them and we actually, and I’m sorry you missed it, we actually have some wonderful lavender lotion in the restrooms for that very reason so we’ll have to point that out to you next time you come in. Our hot tea is herbal hot teas. I think right now we have an apple pie. I thought that was kind of cool for fall.

Cassy:
I loved it.

Sloane:
We give you guys herbal tea when you come out. We don’t want to pump you full of caffeine or anything. We want you to continue to stay in your what I call post-float bliss zone, if you will. Usually the feelings that you’re having, Cassy, will last for three or four days and they actually get better in day two and three because you absorb so much magnesium while you’re in there which is one of the things that’s so good for muscle recovery for competitions. It’s an Epsom salt bath on steroids, if you will. Magnesium is detoxifying for our bodies. It pushes out the lactic acid and magnesium also sends us into our sleep cycles so generally speaking, for the next two to three nights you sleep like you probably haven’t slept in years or maybe even your entire life. The effects last for days, it’s not just-

Cassy:
Yeah. It’s not just a one time thing. I really am blown away. I think it hits on a lot of things that are important in a balanced, healthy lifestyle. I talk about in the Fed and Fit book and listeners here are no stranger to the importance of rest, whether it’s rest at night every single day or it’s rest on a weekly basis, taking time off to allow our body to recover and to heal, this really is a concentrated source of that, plus we get the bonus of the magnesium, plus the bonus of all the yummy salt water. I am curious. Do you know why your fingers don’t prune?

Sloane:
Epsom salt actually is super hydrated, each Epsom salt with seven water molecules around it and so it’s funny because you could have actually a little drip of water on the floor and when it dries, it’s seven times bigger because of all that water. That’s one reason and then our bodies don’t react the same way because our bodies naturally have a level of magnesium in them. The reason we prune when we take a bath or when we go swimming is our bodies through osmosis are trying to equalize the chemical levels outside of our bodies which are usually lower. We lose water from inside our body to the liquid that we’re in. It’s so much more concentrated in these rooms that our water inside our body does not go out, it stays within our skin structure because there’s a balance there.

Cassy:
So fascinating. That’s so stinking cool. Man, that’s so great. Like I said, I really am, I don’t really have words for it. I told Austin, my husband as well, he said, “Well, let’s just go get you a bunch of salt and put it in the bathtub,” and I was like, “A thousand pounds of salt? Are you kidding me? There’s no way. There’s absolutely no way. You just need to go to the spa.” It’s incredibly clean. I know that that’s a priority for you. You clean the tank after every time it goes. I heard the pumps going. It’s an incredible amount of infrastructure to have all of this going. It really was an incredible experience and I really encourage people. If you’re curious about it if you’re in San Antonio, definitely look into it and if you’re not, Google it. See if there’s a location near you. Do you have a recommendation on how often folks could float and frequency between visits?

Sloane:
Yes. We’re all individualized. We all have different levels of stress and things that we’re dealing with. I find for myself in addition to running this fabulous and owning this fabulous facility, I also have a career that I pursue as well so I work a lot. Lots of stress. I find that floating once a week is ideal for me. It keeps me much more centered. It keeps my blood pressure down. It actually helps me. I’m a stress eater, not going to lie. It also helps me deal with that piece that causes that stress and causes me to eat and so I actually have much better control over my appetite when I float as well. I would say minimum once a month for anybody to get the benefits of it and it generally takes three to five floats to really … Your first float you don’t know what to expect. You’re scared. What is it going to be like?
That first float, while you still get a ton of benefits, your second and third float you get into your float zone faster so you know what to expect, you’re not all nervous, your heart isn’t racing so your heart doesn’t have to come down when you get in the tank. After that third float, you’re almost like a pro and so you get in there, you lay down, and you float and doing it at least once a month, you still have fantastic benefits.

Cassy:
That’s wonderful. Really, really great. Again, I recommend people look into it. I thought about this. I’m glad I remembered before we closed here, but for people for my yogis listening right now, people who do yoga, you know at the end of a yoga practice you have a Savasana which is at the end of a nice long practice and you have essentially exerted yourself, you lay down and the idea is to separate your arms and your legs and to enter sort of that theta state where you’re not sleeping necessarily, but you try to quiet the mind as much as possible and it’s an active position of actively trying to quiet yourself. What floating to me was, what I thought about when I was driving home last night, it is directly plugging you into that state of being. It’s really difficult.
A true Savasana is really, really difficult to achieve and it takes a lot of practice and it’s a lot of work to turn off the external stimuli, to turn off your brain and to just be. It’s involuntarily puts you into that state so it’s a really intense 60 minute Savasana. It really is. Anyways, I hope that’s relatable but Sloane, I know you wanted to offer up something for San Antonio listeners or if anybody’s visiting San Antonio for the holidays, I’m sure this definitely still applies.

Sloane:
Yes. It does. We have a Fed and Fit promotion, if you will, for Cassy and all of her listeners. If you call in, book an appointment, just tell us you’re with Fed and Fit and our usual hour floats are discounted significantly for you guys. We’re going to be offering you a 60 minute float for 50 dollars. That’s the best 50 dollars I can almost guarantee you you’ve probably spent in a really, really, really long time. We’ll also be more than willing to offer, this is the most unique experience, for gift certificates as well for anybody that’s looking for the holidays because they’re coming up, to give your friends and family. Fed and Fit’s the promotional offer and our phone number here is 210-437-3314.
I know Cassy I think will have it in the notes on the podcast as well as our website. The website’s full of information, why float, the benefits, there’s a great Q&A section. I have a tendency to be very nerdy myself and so I tend to overanalyze things and so I went through and thought about, “What would I do if I was in somebody else’s shoes? What did I feel the first time I floated?” We have a pretty good detailed Q&A section on the website as well.

Cassy:
It’s really great. I dug in with everything. I really sunk my teeth into it before I went. I was so curious.

Sloane:
I would not expect anything less from you, Cassy.

Cassy:
Sloane and I spent many a nights up late talking about just all kinds of fun, geeky topics. She’s one of my favorite people to bounce ideas off of. Sloane, thank you so much for coming on the show today. I hope you guys enjoyed this. Again, whether you’re actually in my neck of the woods or anywhere else in the world, I highly recommend you look it up if something resonated with you. It could be a really great way to have sort of an intentional rest and recovery period folded into either your week or your month so I highly recommend you look into it. Thanks again, Sloane, for coming on. It was great and like she said, we will link up to everything in the show notes. We’ll have her website. I’ll provide the phone number and also the discount as well for people who are wanting to either treat themselves or treat someone else for the holidays.

Sloane:
Awesome. I sure do appreciate it, Cassy, and all your listeners and like you said, if you’re not in San Antonio, go find a place where you are. You won’t regret it.

Cassy:
You won’t regret it for real. Just don’t listen to those true crime podcasts on the way over and you’ll be in great shape.

Sloane:
That’s right.

Cassy:
Thanks again for joining us, guys. We’ll be back again next week.

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